Hi Everyone-

We have a new product for the Rong-Fu 45 and clone mills and are very
excited about it.

It's called the "Spindle-Lock" and it does just that; it locks the
spindle. Instead of using a spindle wrench (which isn't even provided by
the manufacturer, strange...) to lock the spindle, you simply push a
button that locks the spline on the spindle. When released, the plunger
disengages. Pretty simple and it works great on your ZAY7045FG.

We're offering a $20 pre-order discount good until 10/11/2009.

Please visit http://www.spindle-lock.com to find out more and place your
order. If you have any questions, let me know.

Thanks for listening!

David

PS - we're launching one for the X3 mill shortly as well...


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Hi All; I saw it on the San Francisco/Bay Area list so if interested? Thomas

what happens if you forget to disengage the spindle lock what brakes  do you
solve a problem and create another

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: david@fignoggle - IMAP
   To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:20 AM
   Subject: [lathemaster] Product Announcement - Rong-Fu 45 / RF45/ ZAY7045FG
Spindle-Lock




   Hi Everyone-

   We have a new product for the Rong-Fu 45 and clone mills and are very
   excited about it.

   It's called the "Spindle-Lock" and it does just that; it locks the
   spindle. Instead of using a spindle wrench (which isn't even provided by
   the manufacturer, strange...) to lock the spindle, you simply push a
   button that locks the spline on the spindle. When released, the plunger
   disengages. Pretty simple and it works great on your ZAY7045FG.

   We're offering a $20 pre-order discount good until 10/11/2009.

   Please visit http://www.spindle-lock.com to find out more and place your
   order. If you have any questions, let me know.

   Thanks for listening!

   David

   PS - we're launching one for the X3 mill shortly as well...

   --
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   Spindle Lock for your Rong-Fu 45 and Sieg X3 <http://www.spindle-lock.com>
   CNC, Plans/Kits, 8x12 Lathe, Mini-Mill, How-Tos <http://www.fignoggle.com>
   Sieg X3/Super X3 Mill Information, HF/Enco Coupons <http://www.superx3.com>





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Seemed to me like it was spring loaded, from the description?

On 10/5/2009 at 7:28 AM Charles Mortimer wrote:

>what happens if you forget to disengage the spindle lock what brakes  do
>you solve a problem and create another

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Best regards,
Rich
=============================================
Richard Kleinhenz
http://beautifulhandmadepens.com
http://penmakersguild.com/browse.php?gallery=kleinhenzr
=============================================

As the site in the link explains, the spindle lock is spring-loaded.
    Chris
--- In lathemaster@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Mortimer" <mortimer@...> wrote:
>
> what happens if you forget to disengage the spindle lock what brakes  do you
solve a problem and create another
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: david@fignoggle - IMAP
>   To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:20 AM
>   Subject: [lathemaster] Product Announcement - Rong-Fu 45 / RF45/ ZAY7045FG
Spindle-Lock
>
>
>
>
>   Hi Everyone-
>
>   We have a new product for the Rong-Fu 45 and clone mills and are very
>   excited about it.
>
>   It's called the "Spindle-Lock" and it does just that; it locks the
>   spindle. Instead of using a spindle wrench (which isn't even provided by
>   the manufacturer, strange...) to lock the spindle, you simply push a
>   button that locks the spline on the spindle. When released, the plunger
>   disengages. Pretty simple and it works great on your ZAY7045FG.
>
>   We're offering a $20 pre-order discount good until 10/11/2009.
>
>   Please visit http://www.spindle-lock.com to find out more and place your
>   order. If you have any questions, let me know.
>
>   Thanks for listening!
>
>   David
>
>   PS - we're launching one for the X3 mill shortly as well...
>
>   --
>   --
>   Spindle Lock for your Rong-Fu 45 and Sieg X3 <http://www.spindle-lock.com>
>   CNC, Plans/Kits, 8x12 Lathe, Mini-Mill, How-Tos <http://www.fignoggle.com>
>   Sieg X3/Super X3 Mill Information, HF/Enco Coupons <http://www.superx3.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

hi charles-

good point. it's spring-actuated so it only engages when depressed.

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Sieg X3/Super X3 Mill Information, HF/Enco Coupons <http://www.superx3.com>



Charles Mortimer wrote:
>
>
> what happens if you forget to disengage the spindle lock what brakes
> do you solve a problem and create another
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david@fignoggle - IMAP
> To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com <mailto:lathemaster%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:20 AM
> Subject: [lathemaster] Product Announcement - Rong-Fu 45 / RF45/
> ZAY7045FG Spindle-Lock
>
> Hi Everyone-
>
> We have a new product for the Rong-Fu 45 and clone mills and are very
> excited about it.
>
> It's called the "Spindle-Lock" and it does just that; it locks the
> spindle. Instead of using a spindle wrench (which isn't even provided by
> the manufacturer, strange...) to lock the spindle, you simply push a
> button that locks the spline on the spindle. When released, the plunger
> disengages. Pretty simple and it works great on your ZAY7045FG.
>
> We're offering a $20 pre-order discount good until 10/11/2009.
>
> Please visit http://www.spindle-lock.com <http://www.spindle-lock.com>
> to find out more and place your
> order. If you have any questions, let me know.
>
> Thanks for listening!
>
> David
>
> PS - we're launching one for the X3 mill shortly as well...
>
> --
> --
> Spindle Lock for your Rong-Fu 45 and Sieg X3
> <http://www.spindle-lock.com <http://www.spindle-lock.com>>
> CNC, Plans/Kits, 8x12 Lathe, Mini-Mill, How-Tos
> <http://www.fignoggle.com <http://www.fignoggle.com>>
> Sieg X3/Super X3 Mill Information, HF/Enco Coupons
> <http://www.superx3.com <http://www.superx3.com>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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how much were they asking for it?..tools?...  extra's??    anything wrong with
it posted?  pics?

thanks



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: jaguar3145
   To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:45 PM
   Subject: [lathemaster] 8 1/2 X14 on Craig's List


     Hi All; I saw it on the San Francisco/Bay Area list so if interested? Thomas





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It sounds like the spindle lock on my Dremel: push the button in with a finger
and it locks in place, remove the finger and the button pops back out.


   _____

From: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lathemaster@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Mortimer
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 6:28 PM
To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [lathemaster] Product Announcement - Rong-Fu 45 / RF45/ ZAY7045FG
Spindle-Lock




what happens if you forget to disengage the spindle lock what brakes do you
solve a problem and create another

----- Original Message -----
From: david@fignoggle - IMAP
To: lathemaster@ <mailto:lathemaster%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:20 AM
Subject: [lathemaster] Product Announcement - Rong-Fu 45 / RF45/ ZAY7045FG
Spindle-Lock

Hi Everyone-

We have a new product for the Rong-Fu 45 and clone mills and are very
excited about it.

It's called the "Spindle-Lock" and it does just that; it locks the
spindle. Instead of using a spindle wrench (which isn't even provided by
the manufacturer, strange...) to lock the spindle, you simply push a
button that locks the spline on the spindle. When released, the plunger
disengages. Pretty simple and it works great on your ZAY7045FG.

We're offering a $20 pre-order discount good until 10/11/2009.

Please visit http://www.spindle- <http://www.spindle-lock.com> lock.com to
find out more and place your
order. If you have any questions, let me know.

Thanks for listening!

David

PS - we're launching one for the X3 mill shortly as well...

--
--
Spindle Lock for your Rong-Fu 45 and Sieg X3 <http://www.spindle-
<http://www.spindle-lock.com> lock.com>
CNC, Plans/Kits, 8x12 Lathe, Mini-Mill, How-Tos <http://www.fignoggl
<http://www.fignoggle.com> e.com>
Sieg X3/Super X3 Mill Information, HF/Enco Coupons <http://www.superx3.
<http://www.superx3.com> com>

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I want to hear some opinions on a 0.4HP high frequency spindle with ER11 collect
chuck for the X1. Minimum or no modifications will be required to the existing
hardware, the High Frequency head would replace the quill and current
motor/controller/gearbox mechanism.

Thanks in advance,

Kreutz.

--- In lathemaster@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Mortimer" <mortimer@...> wrote:
>
> what happens if you forget to disengage the spindle lock what brakes  do you
solve a problem and create another

For what I can see on the pics, I guess the lock cannot remain in position if
the pressure on the knob is released...

it  looks like  a larger  version  of that  to me too
im  thinking of getting 1  for my x3
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Tom
   To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 10:03 PM
   Subject: RE: [lathemaster] Product Announcement - Rong-Fu 45 / RF45/ ZAY7045FG
Spindle-Lock


     It sounds like the spindle lock on my Dremel: push the button in with a
finger
   and it locks in place, remove the finger and the button pops back out.

   _____

   From: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lathemaster@yahoogroups.com] On
   Behalf Of Charles Mortimer
   Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 6:28 PM
   To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [lathemaster] Product Announcement - Rong-Fu 45 / RF45/ ZAY7045FG
   Spindle-Lock

   what happens if you forget to disengage the spindle lock what brakes do you
   solve a problem and create another

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: david@fignoggle - IMAP
   To: lathemaster@ <mailto:lathemaster%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:20 AM
   Subject: [lathemaster] Product Announcement - Rong-Fu 45 / RF45/ ZAY7045FG
   Spindle-Lock

   Hi Everyone-

   We have a new product for the Rong-Fu 45 and clone mills and are very
   excited about it.

   It's called the "Spindle-Lock" and it does just that; it locks the
   spindle. Instead of using a spindle wrench (which isn't even provided by
   the manufacturer, strange...) to lock the spindle, you simply push a
   button that locks the spline on the spindle. When released, the plunger
   disengages. Pretty simple and it works great on your ZAY7045FG.

   We're offering a $20 pre-order discount good until 10/11/2009.

   Please visit http://www.spindle- <http://www.spindle-lock.com> lock.com to
   find out more and place your
   order. If you have any questions, let me know.

   Thanks for listening!

   David

   PS - we're launching one for the X3 mill shortly as well...

   --
   --
   Spindle Lock for your Rong-Fu 45 and Sieg X3 <http://www.spindle-
   <http://www.spindle-lock.com> lock.com>
   CNC, Plans/Kits, 8x12 Lathe, Mini-Mill, How-Tos <http://www.fignoggl
   <http://www.fignoggle.com> e.com>
   Sieg X3/Super X3 Mill Information, HF/Enco Coupons <http://www.superx3.
   <http://www.superx3.com> com>

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Check out Thomas' shop in photos and see all the goodies. Email me off line if
interested.

Nice looking set up, can you tell us more about the taper jig?

Thanks,

Bill C.


--- In lathemaster@yahoogroups.com, "jaguar3145" <jaguar3145@...> wrote:
>
> Check out Thomas' shop in photos and see all the goodies. Email me off line if
interested.
>

Where is it?

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 1:07 PM, jaguar3145 <jaguar3145@...> wrote:
> Check out Thomas' shop in photos and see all the goodies. Email me off line if
interested.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

I do recall that Bob is in the business of selling new machines and as a sponsor
of this group I shouln't take advantage. The Lathe is in Napa Ca. The Listing
has not been reposted because of some second thoughts.I visited HF today and saw
the "Mini Lathe" which is quite a bargain for $400+tax We do forget that little
extra 9%!My little Lathemaster is a short pecision machine (IMHO) not a mini
lathe. It has never been challanged by any task put between it's centers; only
by the operator. The lack of a QCGB has been annoying. I now have two other
machines with QCGB's and realized I have only used 4 TPI's; 13 (I made a 78
tooth gear);16, 20, and 32. I have restarted my additional banjo project in
those pitches. For fine finishses I might power the leadscrew by a 30:1 VSDC
gearmotor. The taper attachment is from a plan in MI back in the 60"s. It took
awhile to build but works better than I hoped.I have three interested people but
who knows? Thomas

Id like to see some pics of it...

link?



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: jaguar3145
   To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:59 PM
   Subject: [lathemaster] My 8.5X14 for sale or maybe not!?


     I do recall that Bob is in the business of selling new machines and as a
sponsor of this group I shouln't take advantage. The Lathe is in Napa Ca. The
Listing has not been reposted because of some second thoughts.I visited HF today
and saw the "Mini Lathe" which is quite a bargain for $400+tax We do forget that
little extra 9%!My little Lathemaster is a short pecision machine (IMHO) not a
mini lathe. It has never been challanged by any task put between it's centers;
only by the operator. The lack of a QCGB has been annoying. I now have two other
machines with QCGB's and realized I have only used 4 TPI's; 13 (I made a 78
tooth gear);16, 20, and 32. I have restarted my additional banjo project in
those pitches. For fine finishses I might power the leadscrew by a 30:1 VSDC
gearmotor. The taper attachment is from a plan in MI back in the 60"s. It took
awhile to build but works better than I hoped.I have three interested people but
who knows? Thomas





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Thomas,

Thanks for the info on the taper jig.  You have a very nice looking machine.  I
appreciate your sensitivity to keeping this group non-commercial and on topic. 
I am co-moderator of the group (with 2 other good guys) and we are volunteers
only.  Bob Bertrand is a great guy, but has no official connection with this
group (other than being a member).  In my humble opinion it is perfectly fine
for one of "us" to offer a used Lathemaster lathe for sale to another brother or
sister in the group.  Like I said, you have a fine looking machine and someone
would be lucky to get it if you decide to sell after all.

Best Regards,

Bill C.

  and you are not taking advantage are not t
--- In lathemaster@yahoogroups.com, "jaguar3145" <jaguar3145@...> wrote:
>
> I do recall that Bob is in the business of selling new machines and as a
sponsor of this group I shouln't take advantage. The Lathe is in Napa Ca. The
Listing has not been reposted because of some second thoughts.I visited HF today
and saw the "Mini Lathe" which is quite a bargain for $400+tax We do forget that
little extra 9%!My little Lathemaster is a short pecision machine (IMHO) not a
mini lathe. It has never been challanged by any task put between it's centers;
only by the operator. The lack of a QCGB has been annoying. I now have two other
machines with QCGB's and realized I have only used 4 TPI's; 13 (I made a 78
tooth gear);16, 20, and 32. I have restarted my additional banjo project in
those pitches. For fine finishses I might power the leadscrew by a 30:1 VSDC
gearmotor. The taper attachment is from a plan in MI back in the 60"s. It took
awhile to build but works better than I hoped.I have three interested people but
who knows? Thomas
>

I've posted more pix. in my album, Thomas' Shop. That would be #58. I am
continuing with making 3 additional banjos. Also making a 8 tpi Hobb to cut some
gears for the banjos. If I sell the Lathe, whatever is unfinished goes with it.
I made the 78 tooth gear with a single point tool in my X2 on a piece of unknown
material...quite hard! The gear works well but the gear isn't as nice as I
wanted. Contact me if interested. Price is $750 which is 1/3 of my investment. I
found the mid-pulley shaft canted when tensioning the belt so I made the
tensioner seen at the top of the side cover. The GE 1/2 hp, 90Volt DC Shunt
motor is from Surplus Center NOS and the Minarik Controller also from there. I
could post some pix. of the Hobb if anyone is interested. Regards, Thomas

Hi; I sold the lathe last night. Thomas

Does anyone have the dimensions on the tool post bolt?  I want to make a spare
but I don't want to remove the original.
Thanks, Al Fiallos

All,

I very recently purchased a new Lathemaster 8x14, was informed about this group,
and joined it the other day. Last weekend the 8x14 got cleaned up, hoisted onto
its workbench, and fastened down to the workbench top. Now I'm in the process of
doing more cleaning, checking adjustments, and familiarizing myself with the
lathe's features.

I have used a Taig lathe for several years to make parts for gauge-1 live steam
locomotives, but have not operated a larger lathe. The reasons for getting the
Lathemaster were to expand my machining capability and then to see what
direction my hobby projects then took. Of course I've got a lot to learn along
the way.

I do have two areas of questions for the group:

1. How well does the toothed drive belt track on its pulleys (i.e. does it stay
on the pulleys)?  Is it necessary or recommended to shim the idler pulley to
adjust the tracking?

2. What are the recommended lubricant and lubrication frequency for the
headstock spindle bearings?  If this info is in the manual somehow I missed it.
(Didn't see it in the HF 8x12 manual in the group "Files" section either.)

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Steve Shyvers





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hi steve-

congrats on your 8x!

Stephen Shyvers wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I very recently purchased a new Lathemaster 8x14, was informed about
> this group, and joined it the other day. Last weekend the 8x14 got
> cleaned up, hoisted onto its workbench, and fastened down to the
> workbench top. Now I'm in the process of doing more cleaning, checking
> adjustments, and familiarizing myself with the lathe's features.
>
> I have used a Taig lathe for several years to make parts for gauge-1
> live steam locomotives, but have not operated a larger lathe. The
> reasons for getting the Lathemaster were to expand my machining
> capability and then to see what direction my hobby projects then took.
> Of course I've got a lot to learn along the way.
>
> I do have two areas of questions for the group:
>
> 1. How well does the toothed drive belt track on its pulleys (i.e.
> does it stay on the pulleys)? Is it necessary or recommended to shim
> the idler pulley to adjust the tracking?
>

if you hear "grinding" type noises, yes, tighten up the belt.
http://www.fignoggle.com/machines/8x12lathe/howTo-tightenSynchBelt.htm

> 2. What are the recommended lubricant and lubrication frequency for
> the headstock spindle bearings? If this info is in the manual somehow
> I missed it. (Didn't see it in the HF 8x12 manual in the group "Files"
> section either.)
>

the only thing we've had to oil was the pulley drivetrain. it locked up
once and made very interesting noises...

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<http://www.spindle-lock.com>
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Sieg X3/Super X3 Mill Information, HF/Enco Coupons <http://www.superx3.com>


>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Shyvers
>
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Hi Steven, welome to the group, and congrats on that new lathe, I really think
you will enjoy it. Now, about those questions:
1) Like David said, be sure and keep the belt tight--and yes, sometimes a
particular machine could benefit from a bit of shimming, the better the
alignment and tracking, the better it works.

2) These machines don't have a capability of lubricating the headstock spindle
bearings, without disassembly of the headstock and spindle assembly. These
tapered roller bearings simply use automotive-type wheel bearing grease, and I
suppose a teardown and re-lube every now and then wouldn't hurt. But, as long as
the headstock doesn't run too warm, you are probably OK. I routinely run mine at
1000+ RPM, and I haven't re-lubed my machine in over two years of use. After
using my machine for six months or so, I did re-set the pre-load on these
bearings, and it definitely tightened things up noticeably. As always, YMMV.
       Regards,
              Chris
>
> I have used a Taig lathe for several years to make parts for gauge-1 live
steam locomotives, but have not operated a larger lathe. The reasons for getting
the Lathemaster were to expand my machining capability and then to see what
direction my hobby projects then took. Of course I've got a lot to learn along
the way.
>
> I do have two areas of questions for the group:
>
> 1. How well does the toothed drive belt track on its pulleys (i.e. does it
stay on the pulleys)?  Is it necessary or recommended to shim the idler pulley
to adjust the tracking?
>
> 2. What are the recommended lubricant and lubrication frequency for the
headstock spindle bearings?  If this info is in the manual somehow I missed it.
(Didn't see it in the HF 8x12 manual in the group "Files" section either.)
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Shyvers
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi,
 
I also have an 8x and no complaints.
 
The bearings are standard ball type - pre-lubricated and no practical way to
re-lube - you would need to tear the system down.  As the bearing are pressed
in, routine disassembly is not likely to be a good idea.  Besides, it isn't
needed.
 
The idler pulley is adjustable on an arc to adjust for the different speeds and
wear.  No shimming is likely needed unless there was a real defect in
manufacturing.   I have yet to find a problem with the belt other than being
too tight in the early days and the documents showing different sizes.
 
In general, keep everthing lubed, the gears, the dovetails, lead screws,
ways... and wipe-down the whole unit with an oiled cloth.  Good hygiene makes
for a good, long-lasting machine....and a safer environment.
 
Enjoy the machine.
 
Take care,
DBN

--- On Thu, 11/5/09, lathesmith <csasmith@...> wrote:


From: lathesmith <csasmith@...>
Subject: [lathemaster] Re: Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions
To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 11:54 PM


 



Hi Steven, welome to the group, and congrats on that new lathe, I really think
you will enjoy it. Now, about those questions:
1) Like David said, be sure and keep the belt tight--and yes, sometimes a
particular machine could benefit from a bit of shimming, the better the
alignment and tracking, the better it works.

2) These machines don't have a capability of lubricating the headstock spindle
bearings, without disassembly of the headstock and spindle assembly. These
tapered roller bearings simply use automotive-type wheel bearing grease, and I
suppose a teardown and re-lube every now and then wouldn't hurt. But, as long as
the headstock doesn't run too warm, you are probably OK. I routinely run mine at
1000+ RPM, and I haven't re-lubed my machine in over two years of use. After
using my machine for six months or so, I did re-set the pre-load on these
bearings, and it definitely tightened things up noticeably. As always, YMMV.
Regards,
Chris
>
> I have used a Taig lathe for several years to make parts for gauge-1 live
steam locomotives, but have not operated a larger lathe. The reasons for
getting the Lathemaster were to expand my machining capability and then to see
what direction my hobby projects then took. Of course I've got a lot to learn
along the way.
>
> I do have two areas of questions for the group:
>
> 1. How well does the toothed drive belt track on its pulleys (i.e. does it
stay on the pulleys)?  Is it necessary or recommended to shim the idler pulley
to adjust the tracking?
>
> 2. What are the recommended lubricant and lubrication frequency for the
headstock spindle bearings?  If this info is in the manual somehow I missed
it. (Didn't see it in the HF 8x12 manual in the group "Files" section either.)
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Shyvers
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>











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Hi Steve,
 
Congrats.  As you do the cleaning, how much "sand" did you find?  My 8x from
HF was a bit surprising in this regard.  Just curious.
 
Take care,
DBN

--- On Wed, 11/4/09, Stephen Shyvers <sshyvers@...> wrote:


From: Stephen Shyvers <sshyvers@...>
Subject: [lathemaster] Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions
To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 3:22 PM


 



All,

I very recently purchased a new Lathemaster 8x14, was informed about this group,
and joined it the other day. Last weekend the 8x14 got cleaned up, hoisted onto
its workbench, and fastened down to the workbench top. Now I'm in the process of
doing more cleaning, checking adjustments, and familiarizing myself with the
lathe's features.

I have used a Taig lathe for several years to make parts for gauge-1 live steam
locomotives, but have not operated a larger lathe. The reasons for getting the
Lathemaster were to expand my machining capability and then to see what
direction my hobby projects then took. Of course I've got a lot to learn along
the way.

I do have two areas of questions for the group:

1. How well does the toothed drive belt track on its pulleys (i.e. does it stay
on the pulleys)?  Is it necessary or recommended to shim the idler pulley to
adjust the tracking?

2. What are the recommended lubricant and lubrication frequency for the
headstock spindle bearings?  If this info is in the manual somehow I missed
it. (Didn't see it in the HF 8x12 manual in the group "Files" section either.)

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Steve Shyvers

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Chris and David,

Thank you both for your replies. This weekend I'll experiment with positioning
the idler pully. I think it needs to be spaced out about 3/32" from the
bulkhead that it mounts to. That would put the v-belt grooves in better
alignment too.

Right now when I turn the motor pulley by hand the toothed belt wants to run
with a bit less than 1/8" of the belt's width off the edge of the idler pulley's
toothed portion. I am afraid that running like that under power would chew up
the belt pretty quickly.

Regards,
Steve




________________________________
From: lathesmith <csasmith@...>
To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 8:54:21 PM
Subject: [lathemaster] Re: Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions

 
Hi Steven, welome to the group, and congrats on that new lathe, I really think
you will enjoy it. Now, about those questions:
1) Like David said, be sure and keep the belt tight--and yes, sometimes a
particular machine could benefit from a bit of shimming, the better the
alignment and tracking, the better it works.

2) These machines don't have a capability of lubricating the headstock spindle
bearings, without disassembly of the headstock and spindle assembly. These
tapered roller bearings simply use automotive-type wheel bearing grease, and I
suppose a teardown and re-lube every now and then wouldn't hurt. But, as long as
the headstock doesn't run too warm, you are probably OK. I routinely run mine at
1000+ RPM, and I haven't re-lubed my machine in over two years of use. After
using my machine for six months or so, I did re-set the pre-load on these
bearings, and it definitely tightened things up noticeably. As always, YMMV.
Regards,
Chris
>
> I have used a Taig lathe for several years to make parts for gauge-1 live
steam locomotives, but have not operated a larger lathe. The reasons for
getting the Lathemaster were to expand my machining capability and then to see
what direction my hobby projects then took. Of course I've got a lot to learn
along the way.
>
> I do have two areas of questions for the group:
>
> 1. How well does the toothed drive belt track on its pulleys (i.e. does it
stay on the pulleys)?  Is it necessary or recommended to shim the idler pulley
to adjust the tracking?
>
> 2. What are the recommended lubricant and lubrication frequency for the
headstock spindle bearings?  If this info is in the manual somehow I missed
it. (Didn't see it in the HF 8x12 manual in the group "Files" section either.)
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Shyvers
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







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Druid,

No sand. Lots of grease everywhere which I cleaned off with some very old
Coleman stove fuel, followed up with fresh oil on all the exposed iron surfaces.
I was concerned that I'd find particles of grit in the grease but it seemed
okay. I still need to disasssemble the cross slide and compound to check and
clean those.

Regards,
Steve

 

________________________________
From: Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@...>
To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 5:27:50 AM
Subject: Re: [lathemaster] Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions

 
Hi Steve,
 
Congrats.  As you do the cleaning, how much "sand" did you find?  My 8x from
HF was a bit surprising in this regard.  Just curious.
 
Take care,
DBN

--- On Wed, 11/4/09, Stephen Shyvers <sshyvers@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Stephen Shyvers <sshyvers@yahoo. com>
Subject: [lathemaster] Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions
To: lathemaster@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 3:22 PM

 

All,

I very recently purchased a new Lathemaster 8x14, was informed about this group,
and joined it the other day. Last weekend the 8x14 got cleaned up, hoisted onto
its workbench, and fastened down to the workbench top. Now I'm in the process of
doing more cleaning, checking adjustments, and familiarizing myself with the
lathe's features.

I have used a Taig lathe for several years to make parts for gauge-1 live steam
locomotives, but have not operated a larger lathe. The reasons for getting the
Lathemaster were to expand my machining capability and then to see what
direction my hobby projects then took. Of course I've got a lot to learn along
the way.

I do have two areas of questions for the group:

1. How well does the toothed drive belt track on its pulleys (i.e. does it stay
on the pulleys)?  Is it necessary or recommended to shim the idler pulley to
adjust the tracking?

2. What are the recommended lubricant and lubrication frequency for the
headstock spindle bearings?  If this info is in the manual somehow I missed
it. (Didn't see it in the HF 8x12 manual in the group "Files" section either.)

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Steve Shyvers

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Steve
try adjusting the cant of the motor and  have a look at the idler pulley ...
more often than not adjusting the motor will solve that problem   also look at
the motor pulley there are 2 tapered guide washers  either side of the pulley
make sure they are not nicked or bent  smooth of and refit these washers have a
habit of getting damaged in transit
Charles

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Stephen Shyvers
   To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:33 AM
   Subject: Re: [lathemaster] Re: Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14
questions



   Chris and David,

   Thank you both for your replies. This weekend I'll experiment with positioning
the idler pully. I think it needs to be spaced out about 3/32" from the bulkhead
that it mounts to. That would put the v-belt grooves in better alignment too.

   Right now when I turn the motor pulley by hand the toothed belt wants to run
with a bit less than 1/8" of the belt's width off the edge of the idler pulley's
toothed portion. I am afraid that running like that under power would chew up
the belt pretty quickly.

   Regards,
   Steve

   ________________________________
   From: lathesmith <csasmith@...>
   To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 8:54:21 PM
   Subject: [lathemaster] Re: Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions


   Hi Steven, welome to the group, and congrats on that new lathe, I really think
you will enjoy it. Now, about those questions:
   1) Like David said, be sure and keep the belt tight--and yes, sometimes a
particular machine could benefit from a bit of shimming, the better the
alignment and tracking, the better it works.

   2) These machines don't have a capability of lubricating the headstock spindle
bearings, without disassembly of the headstock and spindle assembly. These
tapered roller bearings simply use automotive-type wheel bearing grease, and I
suppose a teardown and re-lube every now and then wouldn't hurt. But, as long as
the headstock doesn't run too warm, you are probably OK. I routinely run mine at
1000+ RPM, and I haven't re-lubed my machine in over two years of use. After
using my machine for six months or so, I did re-set the pre-load on these
bearings, and it definitely tightened things up noticeably. As always, YMMV.
   Regards,
   Chris
   >
   > I have used a Taig lathe for several years to make parts for gauge-1 live
steam locomotives, but have not operated a larger lathe. The reasons for getting
the Lathemaster were to expand my machining capability and then to see what
direction my hobby projects then took. Of course I've got a lot to learn along
the way.
   >
   > I do have two areas of questions for the group:
   >
   > 1. How well does the toothed drive belt track on its pulleys (i.e. does it
stay on the pulleys)?  Is it necessary or recommended to shim the idler pulley
to adjust the tracking?
   >
   > 2. What are the recommended lubricant and lubrication frequency for the
headstock spindle bearings?  If this info is in the manual somehow I missed it.
(Didn't see it in the HF 8x12 manual in the group "Files" section either.)
   >
   > Thank you in advance.
   >
   > Regards,
   > Steve Shyvers
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
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Charles,

Thank you. I will do as you suggest.

Regards,
Steve

 



________________________________
From: Charles Mortimer <mortimer@...>
To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:52:16 PM
Subject: Re: [lathemaster] Re: Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions

 
Steve
try adjusting the cant of the motor and have a look at the idler pulley ... more
often than not adjusting the motor will solve that problem also look at the
motor pulley there are 2 tapered guide washers either side of the pulley make
sure they are not nicked or bent smooth of and refit these washers have a habit
of getting damaged in transit
Charles

----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Shyvers
To: lathemaster@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [lathemaster] Re: Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions

Chris and David,

Thank you both for your replies. This weekend I'll experiment with positioning
the idler pully. I think it needs to be spaced out about 3/32" from the bulkhead
that it mounts to. That would put the v-belt grooves in better alignment too.

Right now when I turn the motor pulley by hand the toothed belt wants to run
with a bit less than 1/8" of the belt's width off the edge of the idler pulley's
toothed portion. I am afraid that running like that under power would chew up
the belt pretty quickly.

Regards,
Steve

____________ _________ _________ __
From: lathesmith <csasmith@sbcglobal. net>
To: lathemaster@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 8:54:21 PM
Subject: [lathemaster] Re: Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions

Hi Steven, welome to the group, and congrats on that new lathe, I really think
you will enjoy it. Now, about those questions:
1) Like David said, be sure and keep the belt tight--and yes, sometimes a
particular machine could benefit from a bit of shimming, the better the
alignment and tracking, the better it works.

2) These machines don't have a capability of lubricating the headstock spindle
bearings, without disassembly of the headstock and spindle assembly. These
tapered roller bearings simply use automotive-type wheel bearing grease, and I
suppose a teardown and re-lube every now and then wouldn't hurt. But, as long as
the headstock doesn't run too warm, you are probably OK. I routinely run mine at
1000+ RPM, and I haven't re-lubed my machine in over two years of use. After
using my machine for six months or so, I did re-set the pre-load on these
bearings, and it definitely tightened things up noticeably. As always, YMMV.
Regards,
Chris
>
> I have used a Taig lathe for several years to make parts for gauge-1 live
steam locomotives, but have not operated a larger lathe. The reasons for getting
the Lathemaster were to expand my machining capability and then to see what
direction my hobby projects then took. Of course I've got a lot to learn along
the way.
>
> I do have two areas of questions for the group:
>
> 1. How well does the toothed drive belt track on its pulleys (i.e. does it
stay on the pulleys)? Is it necessary or recommended to shim the idler pulley to
adjust the tracking?
>
> 2. What are the recommended lubricant and lubrication frequency for the
headstock spindle bearings? If this info is in the manual somehow I missed it.
(Didn't see it in the HF 8x12 manual in the group "Files" section either.)
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Shyvers
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Hi Steve,
 
My 8X worked well and still does without modification - BUT I did do a lot of
cleaning and was surprised as to the amount of grit and sand.  It made me
wonder about the air these people are breathing.  
 
I gather from the postings, that your system needs some tweaking for aligning
the belts - I don't recall seeing this issue posted earlier.  Looking forward
to seeing what the final solution is.
 
Take care and Thanks!
DBN

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Stephen Shyvers <sshyvers@...> wrote:


From: Stephen Shyvers <sshyvers@...>
Subject: Re: [lathemaster] Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions
To: lathemaster@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 6:58 PM


 



Druid,

No sand. Lots of grease everywhere which I cleaned off with some very old
Coleman stove fuel, followed up with fresh oil on all the exposed iron surfaces.
I was concerned that I'd find particles of grit in the grease but it seemed
okay. I still need to disasssemble the cross slide and compound to check and
clean those.

Regards,
Steve

 

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@ yahoo.com>
To: lathemaster@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 5:27:50 AM
Subject: Re: [lathemaster] Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions

 
Hi Steve,
 
Congrats.  As you do the cleaning, how much "sand" did you find?  My 8x from
HF was a bit surprising in this regard.  Just curious.
 
Take care,
DBN

--- On Wed, 11/4/09, Stephen Shyvers <sshyvers@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Stephen Shyvers <sshyvers@yahoo. com>
Subject: [lathemaster] Intro and a couple of Lathemaster 8x14 questions
To: lathemaster@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 3:22 PM

 

All,

I very recently purchased a new Lathemaster 8x14, was informed about this group,
and joined it the other day. Last weekend the 8x14 got cleaned up, hoisted onto
its workbench, and fastened down to the workbench top. Now I'm in the process of
doing more cleaning, checking adjustments, and familiarizing myself with the
lathe's features.

I have used a Taig lathe for several years to make parts for gauge-1 live steam
locomotives, but have not operated a larger lathe. The reasons for getting the
Lathemaster were to expand my machining capability and then to see what
direction my hobby projects then took. Of course I've got a lot to learn along
the way.

I do have two areas of questions for the group:

1. How well does the toothed drive belt track on its pulleys (i.e. does it stay
on the pulleys)?  Is it necessary or recommended to shim the idler pulley to
adjust the tracking?

2. What are the recommended lubricant and lubrication frequency for the
headstock spindle bearings?  If this info is in the manual somehow I missed
it. (Didn't see it in the HF 8x12 manual in the group "Files" section either.)

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Steve Shyvers

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